ShanAnn had been in a total of 6 MLMs that I could identify (Amway, Origami Owl, LulaRoe, Younique, ItWorks!, Thirty One, and Thrive oops, thats SEVEN); theyd already had to file bankruptcy in 2015; and now they were about to lose their house due to not being able to pay their bills. Or carbon monoxide poisoning [something a former mechanic and oil worker would know about]. Also zero evidence that she was in bed. She tells him youll never see the kids again he flips, kills her and poor little Bella sees it. He is responsible for his own actions, many people live with worse and dont kill anyone. Or perhaps Chris had one with himself by way of rationalizing killing his family, although I dont think it was emotional. Do you think Shanann was the type of person to leave her suitcase downstairs and just go to bed? I think thats what she did (shed had an extra 3 hours of airport to be rid of!) I was in one temporarily an Acai drink, it really tried to make you ocd about $ and prestige attaining the unattainable honestly. Wanting to know why is simply that wanting to know why. In the report, (link below) stories of financial devastation, destruction of relationships, and even murders and suicides paint a vivid picture of an industry built on lies and deception a business that focuses its greedy eyes on the naive and the vulnerable. I would say the asshole probably turned them over or put the comforter over their faces and did it that way. There are FBI profilers who are trained at reading people by what they dont say & in Chriss case sometimes he says too much. Look up alcohol levels in postmortem state. These are just my opinions (based on zero knowledge). I believe she was probably sleeping when he smothered her. Bella fought back, according to the prosecutor, Denver Channel reported. Do you think that maybe she was actually just unconscious? Good to have a former forensic detective around. As a woman, I never go to sleep with my bra on. while he killed them one after another. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. Before I forget one glaring mistake in the Discovery by the CBI when they did the forensic search they said they checked for traces of blood where the cadaver dogs had indicated, including the top of the basement stairs near the mudroom. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/12/lkl.01.html, There are more details about the Watts precarious and declining financial situation in the body of this article as well: https://shakedowntitle.com/tag/scott-peterson/. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE. You get to know the people involved in a criminal investigation pretty well after writing 4 x 30 000+ word narratives. RIP Angels. Frank and Sandy Rzucek, and their son Franky, tell CBS4 they have been physically, emotionally and financially exhausted by unfounded claims by conspiracy theorists who believe they played roles . Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/05/12/i-didnt-know-i-had-ocd-heres-why-the-stereotypes-are-so-harmful/, She wasnt OCD, and even if she was, what does it matter? Everyone on here who has mentioned ocd has an opinion formed by stereotypes theyve heard. Chris thought that she was dead? And the fact that theyd had a bankruptcy in 2015 apparently hadnt helped her wise up at all. Not on his hands around her throat? He says with a halphazard yeah she was like for sure gone, she was blue, and no beats, no breaths, nothing. But yeah I really think he was being nicer to her to assure she had her guard down when he murdered her; which was when she was sleeping, on the sofa upstairs on her phone or laptop, or god forbid he initiated some kind of intimacy that turned into her death. She was not drinking while pregnant! Little Celeste, thankfully, seemed to have no idea what was happening to her. Your email address will not be published. In addition, it became clear that she used bed as a punishment. I was VERY proud of my being able to take down the biggest man in my class. D: Oil, water and sludge debris was found in her stomach. Cyril Wect is an expert who always talks about how drowning victims have water in their lungs ONLY if they are alive during drowning and not completely dead !!!!!! Shan'ann, Bella and Celeste Watts 25 Page Autopsy Report | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek CRIME NEWS WATTS KNOX JonBenet MCCANN WM3 PENDING TOOLBOX TCRS YOUTUBE ARCHIVE As CrimeOnline previously reported, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time. Chris was photographed head to toe & didnt have one mark on his body consistent with somebody fighting for their life from being strangled. I meant three perfectly formed humans. Im enjoying this site (first visit) and thanks for listening. Thanks for the paper, ganana Im with you on this. Bella was wearing pink pajama-type top with images of hearts and butterflies. Poor thing. Mark your theory makes a lot of sense. Back? Do you think CW could have strangled her from behind? If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? I wondered if there was a fight, Bella saw him strangle her mother and ran into the basement to hide from him. Fecal traces also missing in the Zahau case. Shanann was in there with her on top of her. I think he was doing this so she would feel comfortable when she got home, and would be able to sleep. A Stranglehold can incapacitate and render unconsciousness within 5 11 seconds. He couldnt get into anyways so I dont know what the plan was gonna be after. It just seems to me that Bella would actually have had to swallow the oil to get it into her stomach. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? If the children had cold pizza for tea at 7pm, that means they were still alive until at least 11pm. Nickole Atkinson on ABC: Shanann was very OCD It is my observation that Bella was unconscious but still breathing when she was and stomped on her head to get her into the tank. Did anyone explain that? Then he asks to talk to his dad. She was wearing a black or gray t-shirt and blue underwear. And his mistress tells him she wants to be the one to have his first boy prior to the murders and surprise after finding out she is having a boy , she is now dead. She is OCD and very ritualistic in nature. Are you a parent? 2. ShanAnn was, to put it simply, addicted to her MLM lifestyle and that was the most important thing in her life. in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? @Karen. Also in his re-enactment they also didnt add up. I do know a lot of women who do this also. She seemed to be in pajamas which indicates she got into bed, which sickly matches up with his barely got into bed remark, The sheets were stripped because they probably got pulled off anyway during the act. That got me too it sounded more like Shanann was trying to do CPR if she was already blue! Meacham [who knew Shanann from school] described Shanaan as OCD in the way the household operated. Celeste and Bellas bodies were each inside one of the tanks. Chris was plainly seen in the neighbors security video loading a red gas can into the back of his truck. I guess my vanity rubbed off on her. he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. It's difficult to speculate what the norm would be in a criminal case, especially where an autopsy would need to be performed on both the mother . This was filmed during the police officers body cam footage. The same instinct that we as parents have to call somebody for help when our children our hurt. A CHOKEHOLD usually involves cutting off the air supply, (air choke or tracheal choke) a STRANGLEHOLD involves cutting off the blood supply. Does anyone know where I can view the autopsy pictures and/or videos? Please, if he was worried about the kids, then why did he kill them as well. I also believe Shanann was also sleeping when the attack occurred which could explain her lack of putting up a fight. Cheryl: If Chris did that, he definitely has to die. Not sure if it is true, but I heard that the GF (Nicole) and his parents are both doing book deals! According to the Denver Channel, Watts received three life prison terms without the possibility of parole. I have come to think of her OCD tendencies as a bit like the way she was around her kids. Im sure if he were pretending to sleep she would have been so tired she would have gone to sleep right away, thinking well talk in the morning, things will be better tomorrow. If Im interpreting the autopsy correctly he effectively smothered and strangled at the same time but I never see this mentioned anywhere. God I wish she had taken the girls and just got the heck out of there. & he says ah um like yeah theres that too & sort of skips right over it. She had everything she needed on the ground floor kitchen for food and drink, office to make haircare purchases, bathroom and toilet and a big sofa with a huge blanket left on it as shown in the initial welfare check police body-cam footage. So the agent says what about strangling? Also, he usually goes to the office in the morning and then goes out to the sites but the night before he called and told a coworker he was going to the site. It was all a complete lie. Also, the fact that he did not want her to come to Colorado with his dad so that maybe she would not be questioned? Gastrointestinal Tract: I tend to have the feeling ; with the way the justice system and penalties are enforced in the US .that he is probably in solitary confinement for his own protection!! Chris cleaned all that up so quickly and completely?. (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) I have high praise for you, you are excellent at what you do. He dug the grave with a shovel. It takes 2-4 min for a person to die from smothering or strangulation. I worry he may have had the girls dead and sprawled out waiting for her to come home and watched her reaction from the baby monitor. Only feces already in the lower part of the large intestine/colon is going to evacuate and even then- it depends on the position of the body, the amount of decomposition and rigor mortis. Thankfully that psych warned me I should take the children somewhere to be safe. Once Shanann got in bed and settled to sleep, he then got on her and, like a snake, squeezed the life out of his prey. Or even creepier, but fitting the narcissist he is, asked her to lie down and talk to him, maybe even told her he was sorry and wanted to try and work things out and then pinned her down and strangled her. Not one place on his body? I wondered what became of the gas can. It could be all the thrive he was taking. They have no empathy, which enables them to be incrediably cruel, if it suits. You know what they say, Sara.once you let your attacker get paper bags on your hands, theres no defending yourself. The plea deal meant that he was spared the death penalty, and was instead sentenced to multiple life prison terms without the possibility of parole. Also, we usually can find some urine, fecal material, body fluid on the bed sheet and the quilt. And to come home to a cheating bum! @Karen did she get dressed for bed, or did she simply take of her jeans, throw off her flip-flops and decide to settle down for a couple of hours sleep wearing the bra, panties and t-shirt that she arrived home in? Anyway, this is the scenario I would paint if I were the prosecutor in the case. Areas of bruising, external. Saying she will be there with lollipops and other things. The one person who took a few breaths almost immediately fainted. Nickole Atkinson was first to sound the alarm; she told police she dropped Shannan off and Shannon was 15 weeks pregnant and not feeling well. Whereas if he left at lets say 3 am. Peanuts and tree nuts are VERY different, and supposedly CeCe had a *tree nut* allergy coconut, not peanuts! But there were some issues. And did you mention that the 6 weeks Shannan was in NC with her girls that your Hero Chris Watts was enjoying 6 weeks of being single with his girlfriend, and that was the turning point in their marriage? But then I think if he didnt was he going to leave them at home alone all day? You can argue till the cows come home and all you end up arguing is that she could be in any non-specific place in the house. Chris Watts attacked her from behind, his left hand around her throat and his right hand covering her mouth and nose. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. My son has many medical issues as well, doesnt make me a hypochondriac ffs she isnt here to defend herself maybe back off a bit. The phone was found in the cushions of that upstairs couch, not the downstairs couch. Also, I highly doubt Shanann was killed by pulling her down onto her back. 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