https://www.buggydepot.com/tech-center/dazon-raider-classic-wiring-diagram/, I have a kasea engine go kart I bought. I cleaned this off, used dielectric grease and reconnected. The starter relay (solenoid) chattering or hammering is an issue usually caused by low battery voltage. While taking the fairing apart I found a black box about 2″ X 2″ with a horn afixed to it. I have blue/white or solid yellow. Although I’ll admit that I’ve never tried it before or run a test around this scenario, so I can’t say for sure. I just found this troubleshooting guide and will go through it step by step this weekend. As for taking the carb off well that looks scary. Open/nothing I put the coil ground to the engine frame. 3. Ignition coil positive This seems to be either a case of poor grounding (pin 4), or a kill circuit issue (pin 5). But again that doesn’t seem right because the voltage regulator and the cdi are to different circuits and it should not effect the CDI if the VR isn’t even hooked up at all. A new CDI and coil only cost less than £15 so I will order them. Sounds like you hit the nail on the head. Also, I have no blue/yellow wire. Ignition Coil (New) = 30VAC, 0 ohms (analog). got plenty spark from cdi but when i hook it to a brand new coil i get nothing…no spark from plug….no juice from coil wire..whats wrong with this picture ??????????????????????? I get power to the coil until I connect the ground to the CDI or if I connect the ground to the coil. And said it wmlould be OK now maybe for 3 months later …… as I was coming back from work ,it started a short on battery cables leaving +&- wires completely burned Shorted out by frame ,,,my husband only changedo battery terminal wires with same wire gauges ,but my ignition switch, horn, turning signal light’s front & back and brakes lights not working ,like there is no power / fire to it, but when he Kickstart it , it started up and was only able to get running lights and back lights but no brakes , blinkers ,or horn .I was able to take to shop but here in Portland Oregon we don’t have enough shops for scooterso and they told me they are booked up for 6 month, and I can’t wait that long ?any suggestions for me to do ,please help ,thank you? Has anyone seen this problem? This is a brand new out of the crate engine. Take the jets out and if you have a compressor cover one side and blast air through the other, paying close attention to the small holes which may be clogged. Read the comment above yours about how the trigger wire/circuit works. Can you tell me what this box is and will it keep the scooter from firing? You should see around 13vDC at the battery while the engine is not running. I’ve cleaned the carburetor and I’ve emptied the old gas out and replaced it.the spark plug seems to be good. it starts and runs for about 10 minutes then dies and i lose all spark. Starts right up and idles great. Try checking the inlet boot for any cracks or dry rot. Buggy starts and idles fine. Your IP: 128.199.96.113 Weak trigger has been shown to cause a heat buildup inside of the CDI. But I don’t see any way to put it 180 degrees out. Now before when it did fire I had the stator red/blk wire going into the Voltage regulator on the red wire pin ( normally the red pin is the battery input to the voltage regulator) So I had a Y connection on the red/blk stator wire one to the CDI and the other to the Voltage Regulator but it would spark and run. 3. Thanks Chris. Let me know your resistance number, and we’ll move on to the next step. Leo St. George. 2. The voltage regulator is not connected DISCONNECTED, Voltage at the red/black stator wire not connected to CDI is 110 v AC Never have had or worked on one. Since I have had it, it runs like crap Bogs down with just a little trottle and backfires like crazy, thinking it was a fuel issue I went a head and replaced the carb, so it is still doing it so now my thinking is misfiring, is there a way to check/ adjust the timing? Forget the kill switch, just cut power to the CDI. 1) Stator One really odd thing I see that seems like a problem is that the performance cdi I bought has a light on it and when the key is in the off position it lights up and when it is in the on or cranking position the light goes off. This is the kill pin. If not, let me know. Starter is New. – Ground to pin #4 Last week the drive belt shredded in the case and melted the roller weights. Bill, are you using a digital multimeter to test your stator, or is it an analog type (with needle)? Reply here with your new readings. We have all of these parts. 125cc atv. 4. I have a tank urban racer de 150 gy6 I notice the stator is bad. I ordered the electric tune up kit. Checked no fire to spark plug but has fire on wires going to coil. – Red/Back to Pin #6. https://www.buggydepot.com/product/404/cdi-connection-kit-pigtail.html. cheers Peter. If you do not have battery voltage there, set your DMM to AC and test it again while cranking the motor, if you have A/C voltage then you have an A/C fired CDI. It goes to your #1 pin on the CDI. I need to get some more info but the starter relay chatters as well. Can you help thank. Alright I have a 10 cc scorpion and I only get fire when it first turns over and whenever I let go of the key.I’ve gotten a new cdi but could it still be the cdi? 22.5 v Obviously the 6 pole worked originally before I bought it but then was damaged before I got it. Kill at ignition switch has been bypassed. I have a gt 150 hammerhead go kart wont start! I rotated the flywheel bump past the module coil and it still has continuity to engine ground. Stator has 60v at supply wire, .04v at trigger wire, cdi output is 35v and coil reistance is .05 ohms. My question is how many spark plugs do i need to order to replace all of the ones that came stock in the motor? Usually when the engine will start but only stays running with manipulation of the throttle, the problem is due to an intake leak. 5. Brewer Cycles Inc Video chat with this dealer . Is there any other test I can perform to pin point the problem? Bill. Open/nothing Trigger 0.1 VAC David, I need a bit more information in order to be helpful. 5 — 75.5 volts part # 6.000.024 5.0 out of 5 stars 3 $33.00 $ 33 . Input from trigger module If your talking about pins on the CDI you may be using the wrong type CDI. If I jump it to bypass switches it will crank with key. 2. 2. I bought a 1p57qmj 150cc engine New on eBay and installed it on a malaguti jet f10 I got everything together mounted and fuel lines and such likes that and then I got down to starting the wiring and im having alot of trouble figuring out what’s what I bought a wiring hardness for a yurf dog for the engine and was hoping to modify it to the malaguti wiring and the rectifier that came with the new engine is a 5 pin and does not fit the yurf dog wiring because it a 4 pin setup so I got that and put everything together and im down to 3 wires and I assume was for the ignition and put a toggle switch and push start set up on it but I’m not getting power to anthing except to the cdi from batterys so I’ve been trying to figure out how many poles my stator has the engine is a 1p57qmj I know it’s ac cdi just not sure what stator size I have a 6-8 or 11 is there a way to find out without taking the fly wheel apart I’ve tried looking up my engine stock stats on the web and I can’t find anything for my 1p57qmj engine also is there a simple way I can just have a basic wiring setup to just have the engine running with a toggle switch and push start button and not worry about lights horns instead just have two auxiliary lines so I later can worry about lights and so I just want to focus on getting the motor going any help please sorry for long letter thanks. so it sat broke and my kids were bummed because they had to ride the other POS. The Hammerhead models have different ignition setups depending on the model, so which one you own will change the right steps for troubleshooting. Stator output: 20vAC minimum Don’t forget to ground back the pickup coil to the frame. Check which post and wire of your brake switch has constant 12v with the key ON, this is your power lead. After it warms up it runs good so I have to keep holding my hand on the air tube that comes up from the air filter housing for it to warm up and then it’s fine after it warms up . So it sat in my garage for about two years and now it won’t start. Stator 17 VAC Fuse blows. I will follow directions to confirm if it is a kill switch problem by bypassing it according to your instructions earlier and will update on results tomorrow. when you turn the key, or as soon as the rectifier is connected, etc). There should be between 20vAC ~ 100vAC coming from the CDI power wire (Black/Red), although much lower voltages will still be able to produce spark. We are tearing into it trying to locate the problem. Ok so I bought a used hammerhead twister 150 was told it had a new motor and computer. 00. 4. I PUT A NEW SPARK AND NOTHING. I only get a reading when the engine makes the first turn or if I just bump the starter. Hammerhead GTS 150 – An Exciting ATV February 1, 2021; Youth Go-Kart: How to Pick the Perfect One January 18, 2021; Hammerhead MudHead 208R™: 6 Colors to Choose From December 3, 2020; GTS Platinum™: Sleek Style + Top-Of … Revs slightly but as soon as rpms get past about 1500 it dies. Re checked the wiring which had not been altered from when it did run to find the earth wire was on pin 3 instead of pin 4 so change this. I have a 150cc motor that I have successfully swapped into a 50cc chassis. Hi Folks, I have a variation of this problem. Check the marked lead for resistance to ground. Spark Plug (New) = gapped to .6mm. The only stock go kart to be outfitted with performance shocks, drivers can now maintain top-tier performance in hardcore off-road conditions. If you just tap the start button as its dying it energizes the ignition and it fires again but then continues to die. Trigger output 0.1. Very good. A very common cause of no spark is a defective ignition or kill switch. Can you help me? Replaced coil. A simple type of crankshaft position sensor. Output ac voltage from cdi to coil peaks at 50 A new CDI will run fine for a while and die suddenly, replace the CDI and the same thing happens. Thanks. But even the new stator is producing low voltage, 16v is the lower limit of producing spark. When I’m In NEUTRAL And Press The Brake Tail light Doesn’t Light Up . Ground 99. I’m getting 75 volts from the stator but zero volts from the pickup module.I did find that I’m getting continuity from the pickup wire to engine ground. I have the park brake set. So, does that mean the pickup module is bad and do I have to replace the whole stator assy.? Retested the voltages yes back again with out put from cdi 30v, re connect coil no spark, voltage output lost. I got it they lost the key and the alarm box is missing. The fuse blowing problem is most likely related to the regulator rectifier and also likely a separate issue from what is preventing spark. I have two CDI’s and neither one read any voltage. CDI power 12-15v fluctuates Follow the Project to Get this beast running again for 2010 at http://tecnibytes.blogspot.com 2021 Hammerhead Off-Road® GTS 150 , COME BY, CALL OR TEXT BREWER CYCLES TODAY! i pulled the plug out and it doesnt have a terminal nut on it, its a ngkcr7hsa i replcaced the stock one around a year ago, and was running fine, i dont remember if it had a terminal nut and if i am having an issue because of this missing, the ngk doesnt seem to want to stay clipped in the boot as i tried to plug the ngk into the boot with the plug out of the motor. The stator ignition coil puts out about 70 VAC. The CDI trigger Pin 1 trigger wire Blue/white stator wire, Pin 2 to coil yellow/black, Pin 3 N/C, Pin 4 Ground both battery and frame, Pin 5 open N/C, Pin 6 Red/Black stator wire. As soon as I plug the reg/rec back in, the fuse starts to get warm and will blow. At this step we are checking to see exactly what the CDI is outputting. I am very uneducated when it comes to motors. Have also checked fly wheel and stator, still won’t run.. William, have you taken a look at your intake inlet? They’re usually marked with “I, II, III” for 1, 2, and 3. Stator output. I have changed CDI stator and coil any ideas would be extremely helpful. Question my positive wire on starter is grounded, I can take ignition switch from key and touch it to the frame and motor turns over. GY6 Swapping The Honda Ruckus: What To Expect From Your Swap, Stator (6th winding and trigger pickup module). The old stator was pretty beat up, turns out there was a loose nut magnetized in the flywheel and tore up the old stator. 3) Regulator my dad has a cater talon 150cc dune buggy that has bad wiring. Ordered new solenoid and tune up kit. If you look at the pinout above, it is pin 6. CHECK WIRES ON THE COIL AND MAKE SURE THERE NOT LOOSE AT ALL. Then it just stops sparking. I have omh all the wires to make sure no shorts. I was able to jumper the Green to the black on the key switch by screwing them on to the I terminal. Question does the Voltage regulator have to be connected? this is my stator readings black/red wire is 56.0 and blue/yellow start at 00.5 and not even a sec later it drops to 00.2 and holds. It won’t start. I’m stumped and got a $2000 lawn ornament just sitting. Hammerhead off road is a Polaris company. If so, see below: 2. Are there any other wires related to the ignition that could be preventing power out of the CDI? With cdi plugged up I get no lights horn anything. by Theforce50 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:10 pm. I have a 150cc gy6 engine dune buggy. CDI not producing under load ? Coil test .7 omi. I have a Hammerhead GTS 150 that is a few months old. Depending on your stator type, you have either 6, 8, or 11 windings. 4. It is appreciated. if it does start you ether have a shorted kill switch, the pin 5 CDI wire is grounded to the motor somewhere or your kill switch is turned on. Hola Terry. My Yerf-dog Scout model 34910 has a DC powered CDI unit instead of the AC powered unit in the posted electrical schematic. if that’s the case its working perfectly . Engine Type Oil cooled 4 strokes Engine Capacity 150 cc GY6 150cc: Bore / Stroke 57.4 mm x 57.8 mm Displacement 149.6 cubic cm Corrected compression ratio 9.2:1 Carburetor A couple month’s of waiting , then working on it, TODAY i was able to figure it out. to Pin #2 Trigger – I can’t get any readings. Fresh gas. 4) Spark plug The kill for the engine is by grounding #1 at ignition switch. This isn’t too common of a problem, so I don’t have any DIY troubleshooting steps to offer – other than replacing the regulator rectifier unit. so i replaced the coil with a stock one thinking that was the issue, nogo. Try checking for voltage coming from your trigger pickup, stator voltage, voltage at coil primaries, etc. CDI output: Can be 5% to 30% less than the output from the stator. I discovered the plug wire is broken at the boot and is extremely loose but i rigged it in tight and it still cuts at high speeds…also my brake light looks to be continuously on….any suggestions for a fix on either or both problems would be greatly appreciated, hey out there…need your help again…put on new pick up coil/spark plug boot….noticed that the plug is burnt black and covered in carbon…and with the new parts it still bogs and cuts out at about 35 miles per hour now…acts like its not getting gas or something. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. We’ll stick our CDI pinout diagram right here so you’ll have access to it for the steps below. • Thanks Bill. It was my KEY SWITCH. Is it just me or should this wire not have 12 volts going to it while the key is off. Required fields are marked *. Okay I am pulling my hair out now. I’ve had two switches on it, both with the same results. Im lost. From here on we’ll be focusing on this marked lead, and ignoring the power lead. The stator test might appear to be reading 0v, but in reality the trigger module could be fine. Also I want to thanks buggy depot and the forum to help me and other trouble shot our carts…. I have a 2014 Chinese gy6 150 cc scooter. I still dont know why? Usually leaves a pea-sized bump mark in the back of the CDI casing where the internal capacitor is located. Try taking a look at the CDI power pin (#6). The pickup puts out 2.2 VAC. Have a hammerhead 150. The Hammerhead R-150 is our light-duty, two-wheel drive utility vehicle that is ideal for cruising around the fields or doing maintenance around your property. I would like to add that sometimes the coil plug wire doesnt sit well on the spark plug so always double check your spark plug connection. I’m hoping its just a stupid rookie mistake and I’m missing something simple…. They do make harness kits. Write the voltages down and continue to the next step. A friend got a Diamo Velocity 150 that refuses to fire. The switch passes upwards of 120vAC, so the internal connections become arced over time of cycling on and off. also where is your ground coming from? In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. Hi I have a no spark on my crossfire 150r so I did your guide on trouble shooting online . I have a tomberlin crossfire 150cc gy6 clone. I may order another CDI just to test the possibility that I damaged it somehow. kill switch isent hooked up right or is fulting out. Using the wiring Diagram I have made my own plugs and disconnected all other wires. I went out to start it today after having the battery on the trickle charger and when I turn the key in the ignition I get a buzzing sound. I think I may have put my stator on upside down. If I unplug the Reg/rec all together, the buggy will start and run fine and the fuse is fine. I replaced the belt and installed new 10g slider weights. Ive traced the wire almost all the way and haven’t found a problem. I have replaced the cdi, coil, plug, stator and still no spark. What resistance are you seeing between the the red wire and the others (yellow, then white, then black)? Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for HAMMERHEAD TWISTER 150 150CC GO KART CARBURETOR PART #16100-KAT-913-1 at Amazon.com. or faulty relay. I have a tumberlin crossfire 150. I am using a digital multimeter. FREE Shipping. PLEASE HELP. I’m not sure if this is the problem or just the source of the buzzing. I have nothing hooked up besides the CDI and coil. Helpppppppppppppppppppppppp. Our mission is to provide quality products with a focus on reliability, safety and innovation. If so, I agree that it sounds like the CDI is bad. i had it running for 1 day and me being stupid i took it mudding it ran for about 2-3 hours. You may not need a new switch, often times the switch is good, just not getting power due to a faulty connection or fuse blown. Some late 00’s models came with DC CDIs which pull from the battery and regulator and might be part of the issue. Just like before: while cranking the engine, use a multimeter to check for voltage at the two primary wires of the ignition coil. It’s actually good. (present) i have a new stator,coil,spark plug, cdi,rectifire. Are you testing the Red/Black wire for AC voltage, or Ohms? Can the stator be installed 180 deg out (upside down) cause this? Are they a common failure? If not, reply back here and I’ll help work out which version you have. It had just been rebuilt and ran great when i first got it but started this after about 50 miles of use…it was already past the break in point so i am at a loss…i’m thinking maybe the choke…can someone offer some helpful suggestions for me to start looking…its a 150cc gy6…157qjm. stuck my pinkie finger in spark plug wire getting minimal spark! Hey Dan, I get spark but it is snap, snap, pause, snap, snap pause. 6. Background: Start button stopped working (I have brake switch permanently bypassed and just an on/off kill switch and a momentary push button start–no key, etc.). Use your multimeter to take a reading directly from this wire, stator side. Thanks in advance. Standard … If you’re using a digital meter, that’s a different story and indicates a problem with the stator we sent you. Power supply from kill switch I can’t get fire to the spark plug. I have a diamo torino 150. We have replacement CDI pins and connectors if this ends up being the cause. Blue/yellow is .1, black/red is 134vac. Although the frame usually isn’t a good ground, killing spark through that way shouldn’t have damaged the ignition system. – The ignition coil (red/white?) One other thing, the first time that I tested the stator ignition coil, it was still connected to the cdi unit, and the VAC reading was much lower, is that normal? I omh the stator, getting the correct readings. I’m stuck. Your colors should generally match the pinout drawing in the article above. Makes sense now as testing with a digital voltmeter little to no current is drawn but soon as I connected the coil and drew current the lead would go open circuit and stay that way until next day when all cooled and probably one hair wire made contact. Wrap or connect the other end of the wire to a good grounding spot on the engine (bare metal). Any help??? – no spark at the plug when grounded against the motor. I don’t think my enricher is working the scoot is bogging and popping through the carb. Your email address will not be published. No spark I replace the coil cdi and stator with no difference. Correct the leads and replace the fuse and you should be good to go. Jumping the start relay only spinning the starter, but you also need voltage to other circuits for it to run. Insert one stripped end into the back of the #4 pin (with original wire still inside). Your stator output at 22.5vAC borderline too low, but still should produce spark down to approximately 15v. Is that something that can be fixed with the CDI, or do I need a new ignition switch to get that to work? Only 6 left in stock - order soon. Still, nada. Stator replaced and spins. 2015 hammerhead 150 gts problems. Here’s my pin out. I have a Subaru Robins engine that runs great and I got the same output when I tested it. When this happens, it prevents spark. Check for continuity along your ignition switch to confirm this. Is there other electrical parts to check? I have a hammerhead gt 150 with new coil, cdi,and when it cranks the coil fires briefly then quits sparking unless i wiggle key back and forth and starts sparking a little again. – Battery is fully charged 00 I know this is a buggy site sorry but its a good gy6 site. So this means CDI is bad right? It won’t crank at switch But will jump start and kick start. So make sure the kill switch, key switch, and possibly the brake switch are either out of the circuit, or properly connected and positioned for starting. 3. Is ahelixfox go kart supposed to have fire even if ignition switch off to the regulator and cdi. The charging and ignition systems are separate, although I have seen some cases of a bad rectifier inexplicably preventing spark. The numbers I have using the pin diagram are # 6 6,0v, # 5 6.0v, # 2 .03v, #1 0.v these numbers were before I change out the parts. Enjoy this entertaining video on how to change the oil in a GY6 style engine. i havent replaced the ignition switch which i think can be the problem. Thank ypu. When cranking the AC volts are between 3 and 13. Have no spark. If this is the case, there will be no permanent damage. 2 — 4.6 volts 5) Coil Cdi test at the coil has no voltage at all so that would suggest cdi is bad, correct? What about the ignition switch (key) not working? Started jumping solenoid terminals to get it running. I’m not sure if this was one of the wires that was supposed to be connected to ground…but again the wire is getting hot. since I removed it after and it still runs, but your suggestions were well designed and very understandable Check for 0.1 ohm ~ 1.0 ohm across the two primary coil terminals. Should I clean the carb? I do not understand why this is happening. Except no spark. Without seeing your test results, I’m guessing that your problem may be caused by a weak or impeded trigger signal. Tested with OLD CDI and received the same readings. CDI test. Thanks for the reply. Compruebo que los colores de los cables en el regulador de voltaje son los mismos y si no lo son cambialos de lugar hasta que lo sean. Tao Tao AT125-F ATV. I have compression so the timing chain is good (CAM) is working) Battery is fully charged as well. The ignition system should all plug in for your scooter without having to modify anything. fist we replaced the sator rings worked really good first few days then stop working. File:Hammerhead GTS 150 User Parts Manual.pdf. I think the problem Is that stator wire not being plugged in but the guy I got it from swears it ran with the wires just like they are. I’m not familiar with the ignition system on 250cc class buggies. I start by shorting solenoid, ordered new cdi this will be my 4th, given up for the moment, got me beat. No power to the coil on my Yerf Dog buggy and can’t figure out why. Replaced so far: CDI (two times), coil, spark plug, trigger. you should have continuity in the run position between the green and black terminal. I performed the tests as you outlined. Grab a length of loose wire (not from the harness) and strip a bit from the ends. Without just throwing parts at it. 1. Posted by Anonymous on May 26, 2011. Have you removed pin #5 (Kill Line) from the CDI plug while testing? i was told the charging system could be doing this. I then checked the CDI to ignition coil positive and get nothing at all. https://www.buggydepot.com/product/404/cdi-connection-kit-pigtail.html, https://www.buggydepot.com/tech-center/dazon-raider-classic-wiring-diagram/, https://www.buggydepot.com/tech-center/150cc-gy6-carburetor-cleaning-guide/. 0 v. Coil test. Tim, your voltages going into the CDI are healthy. The GTS 150’s most impressive features include individual adjustable bucket seat, 5-point seatbelts, unique body-styling with wrap-around side panels, an adjustable steering wheel, speedometer/odometer, and much, much more. If you do I would try a new CDI. by ic2283 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:36 am. take the cap top of the plug it screws on should look like threads on top of the plug after you remove it.