Mr. WILCOTT - No. By comparing the window next to them, which measured 14 inches off the floor, one box was about 15 x 30 x 60 inches, and thus had an estimated capacity of 15 cubic feet. Also Present: Elizabeth Berning, Chief Clerk, and Charles Berk, Betsy Wolf and James Wolf. Mr. WILCOTT - All of the people that we mentioned in the case. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you remember anything about it? He also claimed he had disbursed cash funds for Oswald or The Oswald Project. After his interview and testimony he was claims he was harassed by the federal government and put under surveillance. Mr. SAWYER - He was in Utica also? Mr. GOLDSMITH - I think we had better go over that one more time. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you recall whether or not you used that in the process of looking through the 30-day book you described? They appear to be members of the security staff described by Joe Bergin, Jr. Glazes letters add a further detail that they were members of the FBI. I have no further questions. Mr. PREYER - Why did you resign from the CIA? Since then, he has written numerous articles on the subject for various periodicals, including The Fourth Decade, Dealey Plaza Echo, and Probe. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Have you received a copy of the Committee's rules? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And in what general capacity did you work with the CIA? Mr. SAWYER - When you refer to Oswald as an agent, you are referring to the extent you have -- as an agent as opposed to a paid informer, in effect? Mr. WILCOTT - The "need-to-know" principle was not all that we followed, and just about every one of the big projects that the agency was involved in, information leaked out, and we especially within the CIA knew about it, and someone would go to a party and have a little bit too much to drink and start saying things that they really shouldn't be saying to keep in mind what the "need-to-know" principle was. And I will ask the question again, okay. Assassinations, The subcommittee met at 10:20 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2344 of the Rayburn Office Building, the Honorable Richard Preyer (Chairman of the subcommittee), presiding. (sic) Mr. GOLDSMITH - Can you give the Committee the names of any persons who might corroborate your allegation? She planned to wear it that Friday evening at a social gathering. The White House has announced that a trove of remaining records concerning the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy will not be released as planned, due to the COVID-19 pandemic . From June of 1960 to June of 1964, I was stationed at XXXXXXX Station, and my primary duty was finance and cash disbursements. Mr. WILCOTT - They would have summaries of some sort. Standing next to him was a man wearing a brown suitcoat. Afterwards, Joe visited him in his office and could hardly believe the change that came over him. Why would anyone share the information that Oswald was an agent with you, Mr. Wilcott? [26] FBI report of Oswald at the police station, Warren Report, p. 619. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, when the officer told you -- strike that. A huge cast of suspects. Kennedy Assassination Committee. [16] At the same time, the president of the company, Jack Cason, spent five days a week, Monday through Friday, in uniform at Fort Wolters at Mineral Wells (80 miles west of Dallas). I think, or I am certain, in my own mind, that, if these people were approached that some of these people -- Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. (National Archives, RG 272) No other event of the last 75 . Afterwards, she, her husband, and their child quickly disappeared. 66-67. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would you read the list to the Committee? Elzie Dean Glaze passed away on November 15, 2019. Mr. SAWYER - I noticed in somne of the information we are provided you say that following your leaving the CIA in 1967 or thereabouts, for a period of some three years or so, you were harassed by the CIA and the FBI and sabotaged, as I recollect it. Mr. CORNWELL - On that occasion to whom did you speak? In November 1963, on the Friday before Thanksgiving, President Kennedy was riding in a Lincoln convertible rolling through the streets of Dallas. Mr. SAWYER - What were they? Mr. CORNWELL - And would that -- at least in part --. at the best online prices at eBay! XXXXXXXXXXXXX. Try again. (Whereupon, a recess was taken while the members of the Committee went to the floor of the House for a vote.). Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was he a CIA employee? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I never really looked. time and date of assassination and correspondence with time and date of Wilcott's hearing of assassination. I went immediately into the clear space on the ground floor and asked where there was a phone. In the decades following that fateful day, former employees of these companies have been reluctant to answer questions. And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. "[24] Lovelady must have been one of the other calm men, since, as previously noted, he made no response when Adams said that the president had been shot. This was just prior to moving to Langley, in finance, and my duties there were policing accounts, and included auditing of special accounts. During the period, it was unvouchered funds, and my duties were general accounting, and my rate in status was GS-5. Mr. CORNWELL - In other words, that is, the first two letters or the last ones would have been the same as this? Mr. WILCOTT - Usually I threw them away at the end of the day or once in a while I would put it in -- I had a little folder where I kept personal things and it is possible I could have out it in there, but certainly it would have bee destroyed when I left. Mr. PREYER - That was shop talk, speculation, I gather; people were saying that the CIA is somehow connected with it. House of Representatives, John F. Kennedy Subcommittee of the Select Committee on Assassinations, Washington, D. C. I will be back in about 10 minutes. Mr. WILCOTT - June of 1964. Mr. CORNWELL - That is, that subject matter, your statement on the Oswald agency matter, be printed or otherwise publicized in a news publication, radio or TV or anything like that on any other occasion? Mr. PREYER - I would like before we begin to read a written statement concerning the subject of the investigation. Joe was unable to determine if the arson was assassination-related. Mr. WILCOTT - I think it must have been two or three omths (sic) after the assassination. Three of the seven boxes appear in a photograph in his book. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, you did. 359-360, 386-387. Below is Mr. Glazes letter: House of Re. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true. As Rose points out, this is a bit odd also, since most of the building witnesses were taken to the sheriffs office, which was much closer to the TSBD than police headquarters. Walther was sure they were not as high as the sixth floor. Mr. DODD - And this was a view shared by you and your, wife -- Towards the end of my tour of duty, I heard certain things about Oswald somehow being connected with the agency, and I didn't really believe this when I heard it, and I thought it was absurd. On October 5, 1986, Elsie Wilcott died of cancer. Wilcott worked in the accounting department and was in charge of disbursement of cash funds. What, on recollection, strikes me as possibly significant is that all three seemed to be exceedingly calm and relaxed, compared to the pandemonium which existed right outside their front door. He was an accomplished journalist and author and had worked as a radio engineer in his early career. 2 AM, Nov. 23. Present: Representatives Preyer (presiding), Dodd and Sawyer. Mr. WILCOTT - I am sorry? In my letter to him, I praised him for his courage and expressed the hope that someday he might fill in the gaps of his story for the sake of history. Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. Mr. WILCOTT - It was right at my window, my disbursing cage window. To his left was a door that led into the office of Scott Foresman. Mr. DODD - You may have covered this as well, Mr. Chairman, and, if you have, I will drop the question. Mr. WILCOTT - In 1963, I wasn't think that much about it. Also Present: Michael Goldsmith, Counsel, and Gary Cornwell, Counsel. I was really scared to go to the Government and talk about any of these things. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember the name of this Case Officer? Its also includes links to many hours of online videos you can watch on the evidence covered. As many JFK researchers know, James Wilcott was a CIA accountant from May 1957 through April 1966. Those are discussions with people who gave the indication that there was every certainty that Oswald was an agent of CIA, runout of XXXXXXX Station, and that he was freed from Russia there in the final courses in Russia and was trained by CIA people at Atsugi. Spaulding Jones, former branch manager of MacMillan, said they moved in around 1957 or 1958. Obviously, the distance to Ambassador Row was too great to serve as a useful guide to anyone seeking to verify Glazes account. There was talk about it going on at the station, and several months following at the station. Mr. WILCOTT - I doubt it, sir. From June of 1964 to about December of 1964, I was at Roseland. And during that period, I had been promoted, GS-7 and also gained a career status. All seven boxes had the names of schoolbook publishers stamped on them. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report at Amazon.com. It doesn't have every one. I must admit that my own fear of getting involved in the investigation has prevented me from writing you earlier. New York, 1989) p. 319. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. According to an FBI report dated November 22, 1963, warehouse manager Roy Truly said, The Texas School Book Depository has occupied the building at 411 Elm Street for only a few months. If you should need to contact me, you may do so in care of the Lubbock Avalanche Journal newspaper in Lubbock, Tx. Mr. GOLDSMITH - But as a matter of routine, would the CIA cash disbursement files refer to the cryptonym of either the person or the project that is receiving funds? Near the two freight elevators were Shelley and co-worker Billy Lovelady. These promotions will be applied to this item: Some promotions may be combined; others are not eligible to be combined with other offers. Mr. WILCOTT - Not that I know of. The CIA then told him a story of how someone could be thrown out of a plane without a parachute and the CIA would protect them. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. Butler said that the 411 Elm Street building was vacant for at least a year after his company moved out. Mr. SAWYER - What were some other instances? It was about XXX I think, was our actual roster was. He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. [19] Immediately after Adams and Styles went out the back door, Officer Marion Baker came in through the front door and met Roy Truly. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, that was just those that were assigned to XXXXXX and those projects that were assigned to XXXXXXXX. Mr. DODD - I am just a little confused, I guess, over your reaction. James T. Tague was an unintended victim in the Kennedy assassination, hit by a stray bullet while stuck in traffic on the way to pick up a luncheon date. A fellow researcher named Eric Lee Jordan visited the site and took pictures of it. Mr. PREYER - It was your conclusion from that talk that some of these people might have knowledge that he was a CIA agent rather than that they were speculating about it? "I was standing on the triple underpass at the time and was wounded by a fragment that bounced off the pavement," Tague, now 77, told ABC News. The November 14, 1961 date came from Leon, Sexton branch manager in Dallas from 1961 to 1964. SILENCED! Mr. DODD - Would you care to tell us any of the names of people whom you communicated with? GLAZE, Elzie Dean Age 66, is celebrated by his family for his compassion, humor and willingness to help family, friends and the world at large. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. PREYER - Thank you for being here today, and I will call the subcommittee to order at this time. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And your testimony has been truthful and candid? [18] Carolyn Walther, 24H522; Edwards, 24H207; Fischer, 24H208. She and three co-workersVictoria Adams, Sandra Styles, and Elsie Dormanviewed the shooting of the president from their fourth-floor office window. I was up to my neck before I realized it. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it was "We all know all about you" and signed "The Minutemen" or some very vulgar remarks and "We know all about you and signed "Minutemen." Thank you for your letter. His wife Mildred refused to talk about the assassination even with members of her own family. I was on the executive committee along with doctors and lawyers and some of the most respected people in the community. Mr. WILCOTT - My boss, Frank O'Connor said that this was told him by the public safety commissioner and that the FBI had told the public safety commissioner. In 1970, the TSBD and the schoolbook publishers moved out of the old 411 Elm Street building. The incident involving two government agents asking new employees strange questions also occurred at this location. His father died on November 2, 1990. Do you solemnly swear that the evidence you are about to give before this subcommittee will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Support JFK Facts Here's how you can help: The John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Espaol Fall 2017, Vol. But in the light of the information in this essay, it seems interesting that it was Shelly and Truly who took the name of Oswald to the police. the day we would list all of the advances that were made in an advance book. They told me that I had passed both of those. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And when you testified earlier that you learned Oswald's cryptonym, by that do you mean that you learned both Oswald's personal cryptonym and his project cryptonym, or was it one of the two? He asked that a copy of the letter be sent to his homenot to the business addressand after he read it, he would check into it. Investigations of the CIA in the 1960s and 1970s shows that the agency had embedded agents in a wide variety of organizations and institutions, including labor unions, airlines, college student associations, foundations, law firms, banks, savings and loans, investment firms, travel agencies, police departments, post offices, publishing companies, newspapers, call girl services, and mental health institutions. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you discuss this information with Mr. CORNWELL - You had signed a secrecy oath while you were employed with the Agency? His desire to tell what he knew overcame his fear at least twice in his life. Mr. WILCOTT - I can't remember, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So that they would be routinely destroyed at the time of auditing? After completing the questionnaire, the two F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. He was sickly looking, and, like his father, had lost weight. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. [22] And this likely included coaxing Shelly and Lovelady into making an ersatz trip across the street to the railroad yards before their return to the TSBD, which is now when they said they saw Styles and Adams. Obviously, if Shelly had been arrested, someone with the police had that record expunged. Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. James Wilcott worked out of the Tokyo CIA station at the time of the assassination. Learn more. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people have you spoken to that said that Oswald was an agent of the CIA, to the best of your recollection? [7] The Bergins house appeared to be under surveillance and their telephone line seemed to have been tapped. Did he say to you, "I think Oswald was a CIA agent," or did that first person say to you that he was a CIA agent? There were more people than that that believed it, and six people with any degree of certainty that, you know, I felt from what they were saying that they either had some kind of substantial knowledge, or they had talked to somebody who had some knowledge. Mr. WILCOTT - So it was sometime between February and June of 1964? Mr. CORNWELL - To your knowledge, when was the first point in time at which your extra-agency discussions on this subject matter came to the attention of the Agency, if ever? I talked to reporters from various papers, and I talked to people in other forms of meetings, and to me it is not surprising at all. It would be easy to verify: (1) if a reporter named Glaze has ever worked for the Lubbock newspaper, (2) if a journalist named Glaze was living in Dallas in 1974/1975. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you have any basis for thinking that their security was poor? Mr. WILCOTT - Surely, sir. When Joe entered the building, he took a recently installed passenger elevator to the fourth floor. She said that there is a whole lot more to tell about the TSBD than what has been publishedthat the whole building should be suspected as more or less of a safe base to operate from that day in November 1963.[9]. So, when the Case Officer made reference to a cryptonym, you didn't know whether the cryptonym referred to Oswald specifically or to a project in which Oswald had been involved is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. His duties routinely brought him in contact with all station people, and in particular with operational agents. I am sorry. Mr. CORNWELL - What year was that? Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. Since a cubic foot of books is about 25 to 30 pounds, a box such as this, when loaded with books, would have weighed around 375 to 450 poundstoo heavy to manage with a handcart. No doubt the police asked Shelley a lot of questions, and it is possible that they kept him in custody until he gave satisfactory answers. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. Here, by your own testimony, you were supportive of the President, and certainly the most significant tragedy, I think, probably in the last 15 years or 20 years was the assassination of President Kennedy, and you are told by some who worked for the Agency that Oswald was a CIA agent and you already were dissatisfied with the actions of the Agency and you are told this in 1964 and yet it takes four, years, or two years, after you had left the Agency, recognizing the tremendous import and significance of that, and I am terribly confused as to why you decided to keep that information to yourself and to your wife. Wilcott was a private pilot and landed his plane at noon, 11-23-63, Tokyo time. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, I did not. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Were you ever able to find any indication in any of the XXXXXXX Station's records that Oswald was, in fact, a CIA agent? Bill Shelly claims he was arrested by the Dallas Police and formally charged with the assassination of President Kennedy. Mr. CORNWELL - It was not normally part of your duties or the scope of the knowledge that you routinely acquired on your job, as I understand it, for you to know what the cryptonyms meant; is that correct? Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did you know, in 1963, what type of security precautions the Warren Commission had for conducting its investigation? That was the SR branch which had all of the projects having anything to do with the Soviet Union. Out of curiosity, he opened this door and saw a large storage area that took over half of the square footage of the fourth floor. According to this person, shortly after going to work for Bill Schelly, she & another new employee were subjected to some rather odd questioning when considering they were hired as clerks. I spoke to groups in their homes and I spoke to groups in the Peace and Freedom Party and I was with the Peace and Freedom Party for several years. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember which of these individuals if any, made the specific allegation or reference that Oswald was an agent? Oversized boxes were also seen by Joe Bergin, Jr. when he visited his father at the 411 Elm Street building. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you wait five years? Insofar as I know, this information has never been made public. If you have something -- It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. [9] Carolyn Arnold statement in Byrd/TSBD Concerns posted by Martin Barkley on May 24, 2000 on the JFK Today website. Last modified on Tuesday, 21 April 2020 03:08, The JFK Assassination Decoded: Two Reviews, Malcolm X's Family to File $100 Million Wrongful Death Lawsuit, Alleging Cover-up of His Murder, A Personal Encounter with the Warren Commission, JFK Medical Betrayal: Where The Evidence Lies by Russell Kent, The CIA and the Texas School Book Depository. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. * Assassination Archives and Research Center leads the fight in federal court for full JFK disclosure. Mr. WILCOTT - Jerry Fox was a Case Officer for his branch the Soviet Russia Branch, XXXXXXXXXX Station, who purchased information from the Soviets. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you ever actually Xerox records being destroyed or changed? Something went wrong. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - No. As mentioned, this woman, her husband, and young child disappeared within hours after my interview. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Years later, I found out that he moved to Austin, Texas, where he began working for the Austin American Statesman in 1979. Mr. WILCOTT - Not really files; it was my book. In this area were numerous cardboard boxes, four feet square by five feet high. The band started out in 1966 in Long Beach, California, and became known for its unique blend of country western and rock and roll. Mr. WILCOTT - They were retained for approximately one year by the finance office, approximately one to two years, and were destroyed at the time of audit. every CIA Case Officer who worked XXXXXXXXXX in 1963? Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it never really came forward for you to go to the Warren Commission, did it? 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