if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. Mamamoo isn't problematic. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. I really dislike fat girls. **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. }); And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. You need to Register or Login to view the content. We hope that you will help to educate us on these and other issues so that we can become better people and better artists.. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. Guess we just have to deal with the immature fans who judge them for small things. It would be easy to point to other fandoms and how they have been problematic at times but that's not helpful and just continues a cycle of hate. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? MEAWW is an initialism for Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. I hope everybody has a good day/night. If other fandoms are able to trend Mamamoo/Hwasa hate comments, it will distract from the messes that other fandoms are currently dealing with. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. pic.twitter.com/d4GXcv4AIt, As more fans attempted to clear the hashtag and ask for others to be kind and consider the mental health of idols like Hwasa, some couldn't help but laugh at the questions being asked. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. Yes, I should have included things such as dates. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. Threads: 138. My first mistake was actually assuming that the video at the source was still there (because it had been last time I checked) and so I thought people would automatically know that he said it a long time ago judging by the video itself. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Yes. Posts: 337. hitType: 'event', Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. But what appears to be the root of people's unforgiving nature where Hwasa is concerned is that despite past apologies and promises to do better, the idol has continued to make mistakes in the form of cultural appropriation. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. The sun will always shine for us. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. Im not sure anyone will read this post, Im not sure if any of the people upset by my actions will read it (because I doubt they are following this blog) but I felt like I owed everybody an apology. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with these kinds of people. Maybe you are just too sensitive?? Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. Because of MISTAKES. Most of the controveries are from a while back (solar imitating her senior, the strawberry jam song). Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . Threads: 0. In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. hitType: 'event', ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. Kissed Yewons thighs on We Got Married while carrying her on his shoulders, Persuaded Jackson (GOT7) to accompany him in going into the girls room without permission and rifling through their stuff on episode 45 of SBS Roommate, thanks for not defending the other stuff I guess, okay this is actually the last post I just find it hard to sleep when I dont resolve stuff, An Apology For the Super Junior Masterpost, I wasnt trying to paint suju as bad guys or anything I honestly just wanted to help the people whod be sending me asks, sorry to bring this up again but a few more people reblogged it. If you haven't, let me enlighten you. I know they've apologized for many of their other problems they faced but seriously, the hate is so overwhelming. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). }); I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. eventAction: 'render' The thing to note here is that Hwasa is not fluent in English. I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. #1,972. Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. actually dont feel like fighting that person on their response, so im just letting it go. Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ if henry said that the idea of his band mates being gay/transworried him, thats homophobic and transphobic. If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Thanks for the reply! I will put just a fraction of some of the hate comments they receive every day down below. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. okay so Ive seen quite a few people get mad about the master post I made about super junior (some people have linked me to what others have said, other posts Ive seen floating around) and there is a lot of valid criticism being said, and some other stuff which seems to just be a misunderstanding. Group. 2. Im aware hes from Canada, Im aware people are less touchy-feely in the west, but the fact that the thought of his band members being gay or transworried him is definitely problematic. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. }) heechul just wore a scarf on his head - thats not how anyone wears a hijab properly and white women have been doing that since like the 40s. If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. And that isnt even getting into the worst of it. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. It then grew and grew until every day Mamamoo was receiving complaints about their dancing, calling their vocals fake, and most of all, attacking their looks and hygiene. However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. eventAction: 'click_ads' A lot of my followers have been a huge help and Ive learned a lot myself. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. omg lol at everything written under heechul. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. } #AskHwasa. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. }); So trend they did. In this video, they wore blackface. In order to do that, I must describe the actions Mamamoo has done in the past that received the most vocal and widespread backlash, and then explain what happened as a result. The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. hitType: 'event', JavaScript is disabled. Another thing is my mental health. it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. 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