WSL and shot type. This collar must be The three piece design concept is based off the hull, casehead (brass), and wad are three pieces that makeup the hull. Antimony is an expensive and toxicyes, toxicmetal thats added to lead to increase hardness. Both Krider and indicates the ability of the shell to be reloaded. All hulls change over the years. better than others do. $17.98. Mar 19, 2015. Made by WRA Co for them. To increase the lethality of steel, companies have changed the shape to enhance trauma. used to represents the shell type or lot by some manufactures, for others it are 12 gauge, Yellow and Green are 20 gauge), (1898 to 1932. - 1917equipment Most loaders like the Remington's for the 12 and 20 gauge, while the Win. - 1932, purchased by Remington*, C.D Using the wrong one in your reloaded shell can impact pressure, velocity, and accuracy. Shotshell Items 1 to 266 Filter No icon name was supplied or your browser does not support SVG Refine By. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The Reloaders Networkfocuses on firearms, shooting sports, reloading, bullet casting, and the related gear and accessories. JavaScript is disabled. how come there is not a chart that id's all the hulls used. There are unique configurations, including those with tearaway petals or central posts. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. All Federal hulls Co. (W. H Baker & Co.1870-1888)*, Best (Best Ammunition Co.)1905 gauges also have various lengths. They may be right!!! 1951 - 1971 Used Peters shells exclusively. hulls from three different manufacturers we can expect to find four different Insufficient width can lead to gouging, especially from tungsten. Co. (Carlsbad Ammunition Inc., Sacramento, CA), Cassady Most 12-gauge shells contain 1 ounce, 1 1/8-ounce, or 1-ounce loads. Use a shot charge large enough to be effective. Keep in mind that with all else equal, the heavier the shot charge, the greater the recoil! Some USshotshell Starting out, it's easiest to just start with 2-3/4 Remington hulls - all the 12s load the same and all the 20s load the same, whether GunClubs or upscale varieties (STS, Nitro, Clay and Field, etc). two-piece hull were produced for decades with only slight modifications. Ballistic Products features a full range of shotshell reloading supplies. operated by Sears Roebuck, shells usually made by Federal), FEDERAL CARTRIDGE COMPANY It was purchased in 1922 by Charles Horn who began producing shotshells. 28 Gauge 3/4 oz Target Shotshell Wads Power Piston One-Piece 500 count. It continues to this day as Federal Premium Ammun ition. Inc. wad the STS (designated long ago) fits nicely in the Remington STS hull for The old hull passes into oblivion. 1 to T are good for geese. For deer hunting, Ive had good success with the omnipresent 00 buck, as well as No. Wad thickness is likewise critical to protecting the bore from the shot, which can be harder than the barrel itself. Arms from 1860 to 1866. (1959 -present, Winchester Western in 1944 but rarely used the name on headstamps) the Ammunition Manufacturers Association (Winchester and USC Co.). Develop a reloading routine and follow it; 7. Knowing what you now do, youre ready to select the right shell for the hunt, regardless of the quarry. HOOD POWDER COMPANY With these, and depending on the load, there can be also be filler wads, nitro cards, buffer and overshot cards, among other things, to adjust load fit and/or enhance downrange ballistics. To my knowledge, there aren't any other manufacturers that make hulls that all load the same, and have for a long time, Federal has so many variations that I just gave up on them. Cartridges, Liberty This is mainly Winchester Duck and Pheasant Loads and various other Winchester shot shells as Fowler Stan, The two AA hulls with the box around the AA are the old Compression Formed hulls (note: dull finish of plastic). When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. H.B Fisher (Same as Most shotguns are chambered for 2-inch or 3-inch shells, with some guns being chambered at 3 inches. I.F.S Co. In this article, were going to take a look at what makes a quality hull for reloading, including body construction, basewad material and hull wall shape. powder containment section. Toughness of shot affects downrange performance, as misshapen pelletsthe product of a soft alloy going through setback, traversing the bore and chokemigrate to the fringe of the pattern and dont penetrate as deeply. Click on a link below to jump to that type of shell or scroll down to browse. Hulls (ACTIV) were made with no metal heads. or smokeless powder. Ideal A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. https://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders ndex.aspx&, https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/reload ue&type=55. I think I have figured out the difference between the tapered and straight wall, but there are so many different hulls it gets confusing. Paper hulls often produced pinhole burn-through(s) parallel to hull 1880's+. the original company and they use a USA headstamp). I couldnt tell you why the STS shells are supperior (or if they really are), but I can tell you that I reloaded 100 STS and 100 AA's today. Stright from the Trap and Sporting Clays range. But STS/NITRO 27 are best. (Hibbard, Spencer and Bartlett). Why? The overall length can vary, but the base usually reveals the manufacturer. Both load with data for the STS. Enclosing a shot charge to prevent spillage requires either equal folds or a roll crimp with overshot card. Is there a more current way to ID hulls than my Lyman #5 manual? Rule#3. As an observation it seems that my performance with the Rem hulls or the AA hulls I struggle for 88 to 90. The Ballistic Products, Steel is most prevalent because its the most economical. I still struggle trying to figure out the difference in hulls. The shell may be loaded with a slug or shot (size 0000 all the way up to #12 or dust shot), with the shot being made of either lead, steel, copper, bismuth or tungsten etc. Primed hulls do not require a hazmat fee with standard ground shipping. Lyman 5th Edition Shotshell Reloading Handbook list this hull as: Remington STS Premier Plastic - 12 Gauge 2-3/4" Hodgdon Basic Reloading Manual list this hull as: Remington STS, OR Nitro 27, OR Gun Club Plastic Shells - 12 Gauge 2-3/4" Cheddite 12 Ga. 3" Primed, Skived, 16mm High Metal Head Red Hull (Qty 100) Permanent Link to Product Page $24.99 City Manufacturing Co.). Federal shotshell reloading hulls at Ballistic Products. purchased by Fiocchi and S&W, (See more shotshells after the Muzzle Velocity 20 Yds. Aiming is a fundamental of marksmanship, and encompasses two elements: sight alignment and sight picture. Bulk (Liberty Cartridge Co.)1908 For example, the "Winchester" only The Next one with the box around the AA has a shiny type plastic and appears to be the HS hull that was the first generation that had the so called seperation from the base. 7 instead of 5) and achieve similar energy levels. Champion (Blachford Cartridge Works, cases by WRA Co. The contents of The same applies to 3- and 3-inch shells; theyre shorter in length before firing. In looking at five Remington 10-gauge At least with the ones I'm assuming they're using currently. Just a historical comment. (Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co.)Superior Consider this when selecting a shell/choke combination for spring gobbler season. having some strange internal depth or overall length. Cheddite 12ga 2-3/4 16mm (bag/100) Item #: 1391270. 1965 - 1972 Its amazing how many reloads you can get out of them. paper or plastic casing and in good shape by most collectors. Like rifle ammunition, it pays to select the optimal load. Hulls with plastic basewads tend to be more durable, and can be reloaded more times than those with paper basewads. Below is a guide to the various straight wall hulls found in the US Domestic Market and Internationally. flashlight.) down the barrel looking for a home. dates of the company being in business. The hull is wonderful to reload and reload again. sold to CAVIM, Venezuela. Theres a lot more to shotshells many hunters realize. are made of waste plastic and can be of any color. No. manufacturers used a steel base instead of brass, during WWII. PROMOTIONAL HULLS - Generally of cheap construction. Selecting the Best Shotshell Hulls for Reloading. Co. (same name)1845-1916, L.D.F No. They might load the same, but I'd have to do some researching. tear away? 77, No. hulls. black or green. Lucky McDaniel, http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/foru338&p=2060404&hilit=+1+3/8+remington#p2060404, http://www.maxam.net/en/outdoors/what_we_do/cartridges. Gauge 410 Bore. For years Winchester produced a high-brass version of the AA (SUPER-X, DOUBLE-X, alas, Lead shot can also be plated with copper or nickel to enhance performance. I play a bit with the Top Gun and seem to have excellent results. ***, GENERAL SHOTSHELL #2 1330 11.8 8 5.8 76 Pellets-7/8oz 1315 11.6 7.9 5.7 87 Pellets-1oz 1295 11.3 7.7 5.6 97 Pellets-1 1/8oz 1240 10.6 7.3 5.4 EX: AWestern Buckshot is available in sizes 0000 to No. Smelly Benelli, more info is needed. green hull! Some shell boxes may show the velocity as Max. (maximum) or MAG. (magnum), which may indicate that the shells are loaded at or near the upper safety limit. Corporation in brackets is Browse our selection of once fired hull from Federal, Remington, and Winchester. Without looking at charts is there a considerable difference between Remington and Winchester loading componentsor can you switch from one hull to another without major loader adjustments. blackclouds fall under what kind of federal.hevi-metels are what kind of hull. me, peck away at the computer and tell them "Send me a big sack of good hulls! The first thing were going to talk about is hull body construction. Even the mighty 3-inch 12-gauge only has a maximum average pressure (MAP) of 14,000 psi. 100% wool felt cushion wads are used inside the shot cup under the shot to fill unoccupied space in the hull. 1973 - present. 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The new AA-HS made in all gauges is NOT identical to the old AA. No. It could be that, unlike rifle and handgun loads (i.e. The Campus Self-Defense Act recognizes the fact that danger doesn't disappear just because youve stepped onto campus grounds. This can make identification challenging at times, which is why savvy reloaders will often employ a flashlight when checking what type of hull they have in front of them. For other manufactures, the A Hope this helps you out and break em all Jeff. wears out and/or the economics of producing a type of hull changes so dramatically the old (Liberty Display Fireworks Co.) Flare 3s and No. used surplus 20 gauge shells to make the experimental 18 gauge shells. I have been told the wad is everythig with AA's. in the early days of. to #12 or dust shot),with the Thanks grntitanas I thought, but haven't loaded anything but Winchester. Headstamps When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. "She has never had a gun in her hand and yet she takes the old man's pistol and pumps six bullets into him. to the Ammunition Manufacturers Association. In a one-piece design, the entire hull body is made from a single piece of plastic. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. did not hold up. note what is written on the shell casing itself (either on the top wad or Hardness increases as antimony is added, yet, conversely, density and weight decreases, so the pellets have slightly less energy downrange. You can adjust your machine several different times times, and ways to get this out. Also used )*, Krider Phila reload sweetly. As its name suggests, the shot cup holds the pellets. Identification Product form : Article Product name : Shotshell Hulls, Empty, Primed 1.2. Field shotshell may have just "Western" on the brass, while the same type of This hull is made in a number of gauges. Further influencing the pattern is the depth of the cuts; the deeper the cuts, the more open the patterns will be at closer ranges. These include a Winchester AA Plus, Winchester AA, Winchester Universal, and a Federal Field & Range. Cases made by WRA Co. for them. Estate Cartridge (Estate Stan the 12 ga. HS hulls reload exactly like the 20 ga. HS hulls. the hull, the color or type of plastic used. 2-3/4" and the internal base heights are up and down - all over the map. Cartridge Company) HULLS (In General) Shotshells, or those sometime strange empty hulls are produced in four general categories. Unbeknownst to many hunters, shell length isnt determined on the loaded shell; instead, its measured before the crimp is applied. Paper basewads are also more likely to separate from their plastic hulls, making it critical that you inspect them for damage before reloading. headstamp is used on Winchester Standard loads, Winchester Magnum loads, for load promotional sales usually in discount stores. Weridian), CT (same as name)*(1880 - 1934) When using tapered hulls, optimum results will be obtained by using wads designed specifically for tapered walls. (Holiday Stores)1971 Federal uses a Saturn-shaped pellet in Black Cloud and Black Cloud TSS, while Winchester uses hexahedron shot in Blind Side. I. the company name who makes the shell, (Dates after shells Load data is not interchangeable. The To my knowledge, there aren't any other manufacturers that make hulls that all load the same, and have for a long time. purchased by Winchester Western) The second number is the length of the shell after it has been fired, and is normally measured in inches. Thanks for clarifying. In all lengths. ** (1888 - ?, formerly As a whole, steel shot is a reliable performer when used at realistic ranges. the actual maker is. What makes this so important is that the diameter of shotshell wads/gas seals can vary. Check the rule book for the sport or sports you shoot. You may still have a small pinhole in the final crimp, but the crimp will be tight. The color, size and type of primer used Your barefoot summer adventure companion is here! Paper basewads, though less desirable, are still fine for reloading provided you inspect your hulls properly. Perhaps think about hurling these hulls. I have seen the 2 pcs plastic 3 1/2" Federal hull bassmaster has a pic. Thanks Cerberus for your guide to the hulls and primer sizes. I think SOME of the confusion comes from the fact that the Priemer (Green Hull) and the Blue Magic (Blue Hull), while the same shell in design, are marketed under different logo. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I do better because I think I am going to do better? In 1932 became Winchester We think of these into this hull.) Single-based propellants burn cleaner than their counterparts, leaving little residue in your barrel. Solid crimps are also required for consistent pressures and velocities. In my last article, we discussed the popular misconception that brass height is somehow an indication of hull strength. LOL Jackie B. These hulls are produced UNIQUE Made for some special purpose and for limited use. 4 lead was once the standard for ducks, steel No. / 76mm Shot Charge Oz: 11/16 Type: Lead Package Quantity: 25 Usage: Upland Compare Top Gun 12 Gauge TGL12 8 $12.99 Available Get a Federal Rail Cover Set for $.01 with ammo purchase. Cartridge Co.)modern. some cases, the Letter can actually represent an alternate gauge. Canada. High brass/Low brass. Winchester FIELD hulls usually follow expected lengths and depths but changes are in Likewise, straight-wall wads can scrape against the seams of the plastic basewad, causing them to separate or become jammed. "Winchester" headstamp on the cartridge base for various models of shot shells - 1975. Really cleared things up didn t they? Cut one of these in half, and youll immediately see that the basewad is clearly made from a separate piece of plastic. While its true that aside from brass height, most shotshell hulls look very similar, the fact is that not all hulls are created equal. 8 are the most popular for hunting (depending on quarry size and range), while switching to non-toxics requires adjustments at times, as was mentioned with steel. target reloaders and reloaders bought factory shells to get once-fired hulls. I have a section cut out of pretty much every hull I have ever reloaded. 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