(BTW, I am a member of both.) R: Sleep Apnea. Some other government agency gets told another. I have to do the same stuff to go ice diving. Others have their dreams dashed who lived years longer flying ultralights. I manage my health daily so as to not have to place them in a position to yank my ticket or otherwise cause me not to self certify. That cost me about six months of flying. Youre making a mistaken assumption that its never a safety issue. If you ever need to submit medical records to the FAA, they will review everything you give them. Gordon, This is done by directly contacting you the pilot. The information provided on this website is not intended to be a replacement or substitute for professional medical advice. Each time the Dr. hit the switch, my friend kicked me under the table and I could respond that I had heard the tone in the headset as required. How come the standards are so different now? So, the medical certification process has greatly reduced my joy. He refused to take the physical his business required because his family had a history of heart trouble, he was a bit overweight, etc. The list of silliness just goes on and on. RE: Wiley Post. Not just surprise test changes from the FAA but the FMCSA again wanting to reduce truck drivers hours of service due to fatigue despite the lack of evidence published on the FMCSAs own web site. But here is where the absurdity of this over zealous pursuit of perfect safety is to be seen: Where is this regulation? It's better to try to resolve a condition first than to risk having your application rejected or delayed for months by the FAA. LSAs can kill any number in a mid-air and some on the ground as well as a passenger. And, apparently, if and applicant for a first medical certificate with student certificate has had epilepsy, he/she can be deferred even if seizure-free for more than 10 years. The FAA revised 61.53 to include under this prohibition sport pilots who use a current and valid U.S. drivers license as medical qualification.. If I have a bad cold, or whatever, I will DQ myself for flight, even if such action results in a profound economic penalty for me even though I have a valid First Class Medical. It does happen. I agreemost pilots at least fail to mention things. We have an entrenched bureaucracy that refuses to relinquish power and money. They rely on that trust and the deterrence provided by the severe penalties at their disposal to preserve the integrity of the medical certification process. I had kidney stone surgery 12 years ago and over the last two years I passed two stones at home. So do we really want 10+% of our commercial pilots to be flying with untreated major depressive disorders? Find another AME. No faxes or emails are allowed. I got my ticket after age 50. They are issued by states. After you complete your MedXPress application, you will need to schedule an FAA flight physical with an Aviation Medical Examiner (AME). If you you diagnosed with some sort of Learning Disability like ADD,ADHD,OCD,LD it doesnt make a difference. I found their reaction to my sleep apnea to be too late, ineffective, and over reacting. Im depressed, so their answer is to tell me I cant do anything to fix my problem whilst simultaneously denying me something that significantly helps with my depression: Flying? Investigating complaints from citizens and co-workers. Many pilots have waited months or years for their medical certificates because each new record they provide to justify their medical certificate eligibility reveals another ailment they did not disclose before. You just hit a key to the problem. That process will have to be repeated every year. An applicant who knowingly misrepresents the facts and gets caught can lose his or her pilot license forever and face a fine of up to $250,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both. With the impact these regulations and half-baked ideas have on our lives, economy, and national security in general it is time that federal employees comply with all the regulations the citizens that they regulate have to. Im an AME. Ive no choice but be truthfull,but I am sure Ive flown with other pilots who are afraid of admitting or just dont admit that they are not fit to fly themselves or their passengers safely.Does that ache youve been noticing or even worse ignoring mean something? Remember that most pilots who have lost their medicals because they lied are probably not around here to talk about it. Due to the self-reporting nature, the chances of getting caught lying on an FAA medical aren't very high. You had better not try to get on medication to calm you down and thus make you a safer pilot because you will no longer be able to fly. Sure BUT would that condition really effect his flying? Sign up for our free email newsletter, packed with tips, tricks and news for pilots. The AME will then be required to report any changes to the FAA, If not, there is no need to report to the FAA. You are better off to work truthfully with your AME. Taint worth messing up folks. Unfortunatley I have seen too many accident reports where the pilot was on prescription medications (found during the toxicological examination)many of them disqulifying, and none of them were reported on the medical application. Most of us fly for recreation and a burning fire within to fly, and the Sport program can be just the ticket. The big question is whether it matters. Makes no logical sense. What you dont want to do is lie. To self certify? , you can navigate the process efficiently. Hmmm Wiley Post was one of the great Aviators flue around the world was he Illeagle??? Let me start with a word of advice: DONT DO IT. Politicians create government agencies empowered to rule by edict. It explains a lot of stuff that seems ridiculous, like have you ever been unconscious. That question cant be removed from the form easily, so you have the option of clicking the box labelled International or declining to provide and leaving the field blank. In my case I have never lied, but if Im at risk of loosing my license for a medical condition that is under control I might do that also. . I started flying and was completely awe-stricken. May just you please lengthen them a little from next time? Can you say, Martha Stewart?, I do think that the First and Second class medical criteria should be more stringent.. I sympathize with you. Ask those young people who posted personal info online and then got turned down for a job interview because of those posts they placed years ago. Some of the disqualifying conditions are definitely going to keep someone from getting a medical certificate, but these are illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. They are soulless people that treat you as a thing, not a human person. Insurance companies now have a way out of paying the claim and if there were passengers or other property damage involved now lawyers get involvedsomething to think about! I aeree. My new AME, (old one finally retired,) is a pilot, as is his wife, the office manager and head nurse. I love flying and if I had to give it up, I know I would feel like part of me, and who I am, has been lost. In this application, you must disclose any information about a condition that has the potential to affect your eligibility to fly. Is the medical for safety or for what other purpose? Who would you send them to? If I continue to wish to fly.I had better take care of myself by good nutrition and exercise..on the issue of lying no, I would not lie because not only is it stupid it is cause for losing the ticket. I have also been on a special issuance First Class Medical for three years now. Ive been fighting to get my 3rd class for 10 years and now I think Im close to getting a special issuance. As they say the truth eventually comes out but sometimes lies can go untold forever and I believe there are pilots who are flying around in our airspace with disqualifying medical conditions that should be special issuance or not even have a medical. Compared to all causes of death, these are infinitesimal numbers. XYZZY62, Check the AME Guide posted at faa.gov to determine what the FAA requires for your seasonal depression. Like everything els not all AMEs are created equally. The FAA issues updates to the AME Guide on a monthly basis. Find one that will help you get through the maze, not simply hand your problem off to the FAA. Regardless of whether or not you would get caught, a better question to ask is why would you try to get away with it? He landed safely, but it was his last flight. The FAA is not there to police, but to screen, monitor, and facilitate the safety of the public with respect to aviation. Duuuuuuuuuh do fat babies fart? It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Then, I initiated actions to get tested, never dreaming that FAA would punish me for being conscientious and wanting to be fully alert. The Aviation Medical is the most expensive physical exam I have ever had and also the least thorough medical exam I have ever had. They ask about frequent or severe yet dont define how frequent is frequent or how severe is severe. When that happens, your whole medical history will come under review. If you think your AME charges too much, find someone else. The SIC will pull the body out of HIS brand new seat. TH REASON IS FOR INJURIES I RECIEVED WHEN MY 01 LANDED WITH OUT A RUNWAY. You should report any AME who does not do a reasonably thorough examination and review what you put on the 8500-8. No he should not have been grounded. Obviously, many do. I was then a County Police Officer for 21 years. You never know what will happen to a pilot in flight with his medical conditions. I fly a Cirrus, my wife knows how to pull the parachute. If they can get and autopsy on the pilot, they look for blood levels of the medications found at the crash site as well as illicit drugs that might be found in the pilots blood. How about an 83 year-old on medication for type II diabetes, depression, and senility taking medication for all 3 problems? If thats not a bigger threat to safety, I dont know what is. If you are currently taking any of these medications or other type of stimulant, expect your Aviation Medical Examiner (AME) to defer your application and ultimately for the FAA to deny your application until the medication is discontinued (and potentially for at least 90 days thereafter). Under the new regulation, when the first class privileges expire after twelve months, the first class medical lapses to a third class medical. I'm a pilot, and an air traffic controller. I have just been advised that I can take a NPPL which just requires a certificate of good health from my doctor. This article does not in any way counsel the reader as to how to appropriately respond to questions on the FAA medical application, nor does it give medical advice regarding the accuracy of the readers medical history. We should not be subjected to this inquisitional questionnaire in the first place. You can mail or fax your request for aircraft records or Request Copies of Aircraft Records online. I would respect them more if they screened for problems and helped people cure them, rather than go over the hill with a knee jerk reaction. For airmen, this, like so many other aspects of aviation, is a judgment call'but one that also gets tangled up in personal ethics. Having spent over 10k learning to fly I was advised at my medical I had LBBB. I dont remember the exact incidence of pilot incapacitations that they quote at the AME seminars, but it is extremely low. They defer anyone with a deferrable problem rather than have the pilot provide the necessary data from the treating physician(s) before submitting the 8500-8. The relative numbers of fatalities in all of General Aviation (GA) vs those from other causes. Needless to say, I have never taken a $100 Hamburger flight. If they find any issues, they will ask for more information. I say that based on the relative numbers discussed above. You want to be an ATP, you have two pilots. Even when telling the truth the FAA doesnt give the AME the power to decide. If you decide to undergo a physical despite questionable health, first gather all medical documents, such as a letter from your family doctor stating that a condition has been treated and resolved, and present them to the AME. The bottom line is,if you cant be truthfull to yourself,you cant be truthfull at all. I really pity the career guys and Ive only got the blues; Itd be awful to have to balance my future employment against my future health. The FAA will then require more detailed medical information before they can determine if you qualify for a medical certificate. It was less rigorous than a regular over 40 physical, so I took one of those too. A pilot might reason, for example, that the antidepressant he's taken for months hasn't caused any side effects and actually makes him more mentally fit to fly, a safer pilot. The FAA as a whole believes all people should fly if they desire. Water under the bridge now 19 years later. 45,000 Northern California pilots with current medical certificates Wow - are there really 45,000 pilots with current medicals in just Northern California? The real question is; Do you trust you AME? She rekindled an unpursued interest I buried over 30 years ago when we got married and started having children. Often it is not a case of pilots intentionally lying or withholding information that can get them into trouble, but ignorance of what they need to report. By comparison, about that same number of deaths a year are caused by lightning strikes or even falling out of bed. I have been flying with a special issuance 3rd class physical for 15 years. Sorry, screwing around with Oklahoma City since May 2011 (not 2010). Bungee jumping. I dont know for a fact other pilots lie on their medical, but pretty sure some I know do. Driver licenses are not issued by the Feds. I agree that the FAA has an interest in regulating commercial pilots but anyone else should have to produce a drivers license. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. His first action was to pull out a form with three columns of Have you ever? items each requiring a yes/no response. My question is what are they doing in order to get caught. 99.999999% of pilots can and should self-certify for 3rd class flying. There are two schools of thought on this issue: 'If you wanna fly, you gotta lie' versus 'honesty is always the best policy.' The AME certified you as ok to fly, now the feds second guess him. I go to sleep. As John and Dickie do point out, there are rules and hence bureaucracy in place to protect the masses. If the FAA knew the real medical condition of most pilots, they would loose thier certificates too. Much is right there too, but that practice detracts from an otherwise good performance. BINGO! Manage it and you will not have to lie to the FAA, or your AME, or your PCP. The all have SODA and continue to fly. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. The FAA gives final denial to only 0.01% of applications. At least my livelihood doesnt depend on it. Im not sure what I think about all this but Ill tell you my story. Until the rules change, abide by them, and make sure you self monitor. Im OK now, sleep with a CPAP machine. Im sorry to hear that. Lie by default. How is that fair? I was dumb enough to tell them about my marriage counseling! Have tried the polite calling routine, found they will lie to you, one time the lady told me my SI was approved & mailed 2 days prior, when I finally got it 3 weeks later the post mark date proved they had lied. We are equally desiring of our freedom, but because we are a small group, the bureaucracy can get away with it. Counseling, HTN, whatever. I am probably am the only one who will answer that I like to go for the medical because if forces me to go to the doctor. I also feel that anyone flying not-for-hire who can truthfully answer no to all the medical questions should be allowed to submit that form directly to the FAA and maintain his medical without needing to see his AME. Crashing airplanes? A trip to the pulmonologist to see if you have sleep apnea and subsequent CPAP will make you lose the ticket for a long time until you have jumped through very lengthy and expensive FAA hoops. On the other hand, the FAA medical system is complex, expensive, and difficult to support with data showing lives saved, etc. astronaut training. I went to my own doctor who advised me it was nothing to worry about. The Federal Aviation Regulations and U.S. law require that FAA Form 8500-8, the application for a medical certificate, be filled out completely and truthfully'or else. What are the chances you will get caught? The FAA Medical requirements need revision and made more rational instead of simply being a procedural nightmare for pilots. The whole thing is about safety but the FAA has never proven the need for the medicals, especially the third class, it was just randomly instituted one day a long time ago. The process is so closed ,opaque, and bureaucratic. Thats a good way to get into a LOT of trouble. Have you EVER been dizzy? Cancer is ranked highest for men, With an 11.6 percent chances of getting caught lying on faa medical up to $ 200 self-reporting nature, chance. Who gave the FAA the power to stop pilots from flying because they take antidepressants? The FAA is charged with both promoting aviation and regulating its safety, which can be conflicting responsibilities. Pilots aged 50 and older also have an intermediate visual standard measured at 32 of 20/40 or better in each eye separately. Ultimately, if you have a condition that you know will result in denial, become a sport pilot. Most pilots I know plan to fly for longer than it takes one or two medical certificates to expire. Obviously, the Veterans Administration and the military are still struggling to understand PTSD and have been dropping the ball for 50 years. In reality, all pilots (no matter what their license) self-certify their fitness to fly every time they fly. With over 20,000 hours of real world experience, much of it in Cessna 172s and P210s, Collins wrote about safety, weather and air traffic control from first-hand experience. The FAA can get your records from Social Security if you are on Medicare. And yet still I do not feel I can speak freely to them. No, get a different one. to get it straightened out. I Fly America 2021, Paul Engstrom, Aviation Writer and IFA Member, Health for Pilots: A Complete Guide to FAA Medical Certification and Self-Care. Seems arbitrary to me. ANY RESPONSE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! Ask your AME to call Oklahoma City and ask to speak with a physician about your case. Direct Primary Care Physician for Pilots? Additionally, I believe this would be a tremendous economic boon for the industry as a whole. PER your admission the need for a medical is a mute issue I drive there for I fly. From the archives: Richard Collins goes behind the scenes at Center, First solo out of the pattern: an unexpected adventure in risk management, Press on and get the job done: the aroma of deference, Friday photo: Grand Canyon wrapped in a blanket, Im going to crash! -helping a pilot in distress. He exists to remove one of the joys of my life. They were like so we dont think you ever had it Passed tests with flying colors. I flew for 16 years in the Air Force with a known heart murmur that I know would preclude me form a civilian 1st class. have you ever once in your life had and on the other hand they are so vague. I stopped learning to fly as I did not have the additional funds to have the CAA medical. The FAA is able to see what medication a pilot has been subscribed because they have access to the national prescription database. The only way to get information to them is via the USPS, another government agency stuck in the past. It's not those. The truly dangerous people are those that make impulsive decisions while in a dire mental health state brought on by outside factors. WOW they had a conniption, and I lost my ticket for several months while they dithered. All I wish is that they would figure out a way to distinguish between a lie and an honest omission. How does the FAA find out what medications you are on? However, the overriding principle here is that if you intentionally falsify your medical and are discovered, then you are done permanently. That is why the FAA doesnt sanction Mr. Diabetes as Dickie would like. My wife bought me some flight lessons for my birthday. Further, you fly with your family and maybe some of your employees if you use an aircraft for business transporation. Im no danger to anyone because I dont particularly like myself. It may be that some of you folks are not involved as subcontractors to the Airframe manufacturers. Pilot organizations offer free advice to members, commercial outfits offer advice and assistance for a fee and printed resources are available. When that syndrome is cured, much of what is wrong at FAA will be cured. You would be surprised how many complaints FSDOs receive for folks reporting their family members. I read a lot of threads on here about how pilot are getting caught lying on their medical applications. My guess is this would have been confirmed by and EEG. Are we the same person? Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. There are are more decisions that have to be made while driving than flying. About a week before I was suppose to be soloed I went for my medical and was told by my AME that I cant fly because I take adderal. The odds of a passenger catching Covid-19 on a flight and dying from the virus are less than one in half a million. But with such a vague statement, you can see why many pilots may unintentionally get themselves into trouble. If I remember correctly, being off antidepressant medication for 6 months or longer makes the problem that required the medication no longer an issue. Why is it ok for a diabetic to drive without checking glucose but not a pilot? 13. The same diseases that the FAA uses to ground pilots should restrict driving. See my other comment about getting a SODA. This is one of those typical government deny-theres-a-problem attitudes that eventually comes to a head when something major and catastrophic happens. Federal Aviation Regulations require that a pilots distant vision be 20 /20 or better, with or without correction, in EACH eye separately to hold a first or second class medical certificate. Its only a matter of time. I dont blame poeple for lying. Usually, that period of time is 60 days. If you have ever been denied a medical, you still cannot go in and just use your drivers license. If you have not needed counselling for a year or more (maybe less) and are not taking an antidepressant, get a note from your counsellor and take it with you to the appoint with the AME. You tell me how can a lighting designer be daltonic? Due to the self-reporting nature, the chances of getting caught lying on an FAA medical aren't very high. I lost my younger years flying and now the hoopes I have to jump through is unbeleveable.I really love flying but the government can take the privelage away its not right. They want to approve, not deny medicals. But, it was not the fault of the FAA, it was mine for not verifying the doctors statement before submitting it. Its not lying its letting them find out, which would probably never happen unless something came out about it. I am a nurse and I see it all of the time. but that wasnt good enough for the FAA, they require me to spend a pile of money EVERY YEAR to get a SI, and then it takes Oklahoma City 3-4 months to okay it while I sit effectively grounded (adding insult to injury!) or special licenses for either of those vehicles if they are used recreationally (with the exception of a written test for air brake endorsement, if so equipped). Misdiagnosed with epilepsy. They always do it under the banner of safety. If you cant pass the physical you need to find another way to fly. Ones health does not distinguish between ones ability to pilot a 2 seater weighing 1320 lbs and a 4 seat airplane weighing 3500 lbs. good for 2 years. Now Ive been unemployed for a couple months and who knows how long before some beaurucrat decides to actually look at my file snd say ok. Ive followed all the steps they dictated,all my tests and results are right on but because they wont simply look and see that Ive followed thrie rules and was honest,Im looking at becoming a burden to the system and living on public assistance until I get my medical back. I mean no offense, but other adults telling another adult whether or not to disclose something on a medical just doesn't seem right. Your email address will not be published. All other patients was sick, so sick but pilots healthy, so healthy. Theyre just scared something is going to happen in the air. I just wonder why? However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. If the FAA is lieing why should we worry about non-commercial pilots? There are hardly any crashes or incidents related to pilot incapacitation and if there were the FAA or NTSB would have expressed grave concerns. With $ 20.00 USD anything is possible down there and then just let the FAA go through hoops to find my one in a million medicals just to disqualify and pull my medicalwhich is fake after allwill give them and me something to do till I can think of some other ways to pass the time with the all mighty FAA. The Dr. the agency recommended was an AMI. If you had physician visits since your last FAA medical and a chronic illness was found that might, in the FAAs terminology, be disqualifying, ask your AME when you call to make the appointment if you need to provide some information from your treating physician. FAA needs to justify their man hours.with scapegoats. However many of the folks you are asking are not quite so anonymous. The states set the standards for driver licenses and the Feds set the standards for pilot medical certificates and pilot certificates. If they have any concerns about your eligibility to hold a medical certificate, AMEs can also deny your application or defer your certification to the FAA for further review. This does not mean that the AME should ignore any disqualifying condition that you might have. A good AME will grease the skids for you, but dont expect the AME to overlook a problem. then are able to re-apply. Unfortunate as those events are, they do NOT cause accidents. Dont take it personally, those are just the facts on the ground. Wish I would have! I reported hypertension and was required to have an entire cardiac work-up within the past 6 months. However, when it comes to flying without another capable pilot on board.only friends and family..that is another matter. 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